00:00 00:00 why was San Francisco so definitively the center of the tech industry why did 为什么旧金山如此明确地成为科技行业的中心 it all like agglomerate here San Francisco is the place in the world 这一切就像这里的聚集体 旧金山是世界上的一个地方 where you can manufacture luck within a month of us moving in there they 我们搬进去后一个月内你就可以制造好运 launched Twitter I was like I wow this place is like incredible everywhere here 推出 Twitter 我当时就觉得哇这个地方到处都是令人难以置信的 are people starting companies really ambitious companies and then Co hit in 人们创办的公司是真正雄心勃勃的公司，然后公司介入 the last year some things have happened that have turned things around they feel 去年发生了一些事情，他们觉得事情发生了逆转 the energy I actually think the biggest Factor is that they have all the 我实际上认为最大的因素是他们拥有所有的能量 building blocks to make San Francisco into the best city in the [Music] 使旧金山成为最好的城市的基石[音乐] world welcome back to another episode of 世界欢迎回到另一集 the light cone today we're talking about San Francisco it was dead but now like 今天我们谈论的是旧金山的光锥，它已经死了，但现在就像 Lazarus it is back and not only that we've got a new thing to talk about 拉撒路回来了，我们不仅有了新的话题可聊 00:01 00:01 which is cerebral Valley people from all around the world are coming to move to 这是大脑谷，来自世界各地的人们正在搬到这里 San Francisco to just a few neighborhoods we're in one of them in 旧金山到我们所在的几个街区 the Dog Patch to build the future to build the future of AI why is that Dog Patch 构建未来 构建人工智能的未来 为什么是这样 what's going on I think it's worth just charting the 发生了什么事，我认为值得将其绘制成图表 course of San Francisco over the last few years as a starting point when we 我们以旧金山过去几年的历程为起点 all got to San Francis in 2006 San Francisco was coming out of its own Doom 2006 年，一切都来到了旧金山 旧金山正从自己的末日中走出来 Loop like Doom Loop 1.0 from the do crash in the late '90s 像 90 年代末 do crash 中的 Doom Loop 1.0 一样循环 San Francisco was full to the brim again and then the dot bubble burst and when 旧金山再次爆满，然后点泡沫破裂，当 we got there it kind of felt like a ghost town like there was a lot of 我们到了那里感觉就像一个鬼城，有很多 vacancy rents rents had crashed um and then what brought San Francisco out of 空置租金 租金暴跌，然后是什么让旧金山摆脱了困境 the Doom Loop was the Web 2.0 boom all these YC companies like stripe and Doom Loop 是 Web 2.0 的热潮，所有这些 YC 公司都喜欢 stripe 和 Airbnb and Dropbox moved to San Francisco and they started hiring Airbnb 和 Dropbox 搬到旧金山并开始招聘 employees who moved into apartments and like the tech economy just like dragged 搬进公寓并喜欢科技经济的员工就像被拖着走 San Francisco back out of out out of the Doom Loop this is like very specific 旧金山从末日循环中退出，这非常具体 00:02 00:02 point like the Silicon Valley geography I I remember like when we were moving 就像硅谷的地理 我记得就像我们搬家时一样 here in 2007 there was a real negative connotation about choosing to base your 2007 年，选择建立自己的基地确实具有负面含义。 company in San Francisco instead of like 旧金山的公司而不是类似的公司 palo Alto yeah palo alto Mountain View San Jose even like anything south and I 帕洛阿尔托 是的帕洛阿尔托山景城圣何塞甚至像南方的任何地方和我 think it linked to the do era where the perception the belief was that during 认为这与 do 时代有关，当时人们的看法是，在 the dot era all of the opportunists had come to and like moved into San 点时代所有的机会主义者都来到了并且喜欢搬进了圣 Francisco because they wanted to like live in a cool City and have like cool 弗朗西斯科因为他们想要生活在一个很酷的城市并且拥有很酷的东西 things to do instead of like working and it was a real conventional wisdom that 做一些事情而不是工作，这是一个真正的传统智慧 post that era if you were serious about starting a company you choose to be 如果你真的想创办一家你选择的公司，那么在那个时代之后 based in like the peninsula and if you chose to be in San Francisco you are 总部设在半岛，如果您选择在旧金山，那么您就是 like actively choosing to not be serious about your company it a real neg like 就像主动选择不认真对待你的公司一样，这是一个真正的否定 investors really paid attention to this yeah and we put YC itself in the South 投资者确实注意到了这一点，是的，我们把 YC 本身放在了南方 Bay should should we talk about where YC has been over the years yeah why Bay 我们应该谈谈 YC 多年来的发展吗 是的，为什么 combinator got started in uh Mountain View on uh one of the most legendary 组合器在呃山景城开始了呃最具传奇色彩的之一 00:03 00:03 streets at the this point it was uh called Pioneer way and as hard said in 此时的街道被称为先锋路，正如硬说的那样 2005 Mountain View was the place to be Google had based its headquarters there 2005 年 Google 将总部设在山景城 and people don't look at Google the same way anymore but in 2005 Google was the 人们不再以同样的方式看待谷歌，但在 2005 年，谷歌是 Undisputed king of innovation all the smartest people wanted to be affiliated 无可争议的创新之王，所有最聪明的人都想加入 with Google and so mement became this mecca for smart people it's the place 与 Google 合作，mement 成为了聪明人的圣地，就是这个地方 where all the serious technologists were 所有认真的技术专家都在那里 like conglomerating another major factor is just in that era people started 就像聚合一样，另一个主要因素就是在那个时代人们开始的 people starting companies just tended to be slightly older right like even like 创办公司的人往往年龄稍大一些，就像甚至像 the like the Google Founders were phds like late 20s maybe it's not old but 就像 Google 创始人是 20 多岁的博士一样，也许这并不老，但是 like not like 21 22 just out of college and I think even late 20s early 30s and 不像 21 22 刚大学毕业，我想甚至是 20 岁末 30 岁出头 there was a lot of it from palal also because of Stanford right yeah and 有很多来自 palal 的内容也是因为斯坦福大学，是的，而且 people like wanted to be in the suburbs basically and and the investors wanted 人们基本上都想住在郊区，而投资者也想要 to be in the suburbs CU they're all older so there just this natural pool 在郊区 CU 他们都老了所以只有这个天然游泳池 and then the first sort of young founder Mark Zuckerberg chose to be based in 然后第一个年轻的创始人马克·扎克伯格选择在 00:04 00:04 like Palo Alto as well right so like the serious upand cominging startup was in 就像帕洛阿尔托一样，就像这家新兴的初创公司一样 Palo Alto strip was also initially in pal stri was also initially Palo Alto 帕洛阿尔托地带最初也位于 pal stri 最初也位于帕洛阿尔托 but then I think like YC actually um not because Paul wanted it to but like it 但后来我想 YC 实际上不是因为保罗想要它而是喜欢它 ended up contributing to the move to San Francisco dramatically like we probably 最终像我们一样为搬到旧金山做出了巨大的贡献 pulled it Forward by years yeah CU there's all a bunch of like young people 把它向前推进了好几年，是的，CU有一群像年轻人一样的人 who wanted to not be in the suburbs and they actually all ended up being in like 他们不想呆在郊区，但实际上他们最终都住在这样的地方 the same building right like you guys were living in scraper and I lived in 就像你们和我住在同一栋楼一样 the same building um this building in North in the North Beach area of San 位于圣北海滩地区北部的同一栋大楼 Francisco called Crystal towers that came to be known as the Y scraper 弗朗西斯科（Francisco）称为水晶塔，后来被称为 Y 刮刀 because there were so many y combinator companies in it we actually wanted to be 因为里面有很多 y 组合公司，我们实际上想成为 living in the building but we were rejected really yeah we were rejected 住在大楼里，但我们被拒绝了，是的，我们被拒绝了 because we were we came to submit our application they told us there were lots 因为我们是来提交申请的，他们告诉我们有很多 of space um and then they told us just go around the corner to the leasing 空间嗯然后他们告诉我们只要绕过拐角处就可以租赁 00:05 00:05 office to get it um uh filled as I was walking out I bumped into Justin Khan 当我走出办公室时，我碰到了贾斯汀·汗 (Justin Khan) who at the time was working Justin.tv and so he'd walk around everywhere with 当时他正在 Justin.tv 工作，所以他会和他一起到处走走 a camera on his head um which it turns out the building did not like so they 他头上有一个摄像头，嗯，事实证明大楼不喜欢这个摄像头，所以他们 they saw me talking to Justin and they must have called the leasing office to 他们看到我和贾斯汀说话，他们一定打电话给租赁办公室 say reject their application so by the time I got around they said there's no 说拒绝他们的申请，所以当我到达时他们说没有 room left what like one minute ago you said 房间还剩你一分钟前说的 there was like plenty of room I was like um um but so we ended up like kind of 那里有足够的空间，我就像嗯嗯，但所以我们最终就像 living vicariously cuz we were try and come over to the building as much as we 替代生活，因为我们尽可能多地尝试来到大楼 could for like dinnner and lunches and just every time we would learn so much 可以吃晚餐和午餐，每次我们都会学到很多东西 like you had the fers of Dropbox in there scrip was in there uh Weebly 就像你有 Dropbox 的凭证一样，那里有票据，呃 Weebly there's actually a very important Point here I think which is for people who are 我认为这里实际上有一个非常重要的点，对于那些 Builders it's actually important to be around other people who are like that so 对于建设者来说，与其他类似的人在一起实际上很重要，所以 go you anyone who has built something that you respect that you think is 去吧，任何一个建造了你认为自己尊重的东西的人 really good that you want to build things similar to that like try to be 真的很好，你想构建类似的东西，比如尝试成为 00:06 00:06 near them like actually just being in a in community with other people like that 靠近他们就像真的和其他人在一起一样 greatly increases your chance of success I mean I think that was true for for us 大大增加你成功的机会我的意思是我认为这对我们来说是正确的 I mean that's why we for posterous we applied to White combinator like we 我的意思是，这就是为什么我们像我们一样应用白色组合器 looked at you know Steve at Reddit or we looked at ad Drew from Dropbox or James 看看 Reddit 上的 Steve，或者我们看看 Dropbox 的 Drew 或 James 的广告 from Heroku and we said those are the kinds of things that we want to build 来自 Heroku，我们说这些就是我们想要构建的东西 and I think you know today that that sort of continues like you want to be 我想你今天知道这种情况会像你想要的那样继续下去 near people like that from my personal experience I grew up I was born and grew 从我的个人经历来看，靠近这样的人我长大了我出生并成长 up in England YC reading po msas and hearing about YC and getting accepted to 在英格兰 YC 阅读 PO MSAS 并听说 YC 并被录取 YC in 2007 is the reason that I moved but the initially I only planned on 2007年的YC是我搬家的原因，但最初我只是计划 moving for 3 months like that's how long 搬家3个月就这样多久了 we could stay on a tourist waiver um but as soon as we got here it was just like 我们可以享受旅游豁免，但是我们一到这里就感觉就像 a complete world of difference like I went from being around all of my peers 一个完全不同的世界，就像我和所有同龄人在一起一样 working in banking consultancy just thinking I was unemployed or too lazy to 在银行咨询公司工作只是以为我失业了或者太懒了 get like a real job and being in San Francisco and the Bay Area especially 找到一份真正的工作，尤其是在旧金山和湾区 00:07 00:07 amongst the YC Founders it was like hey like everyone's doing a startup 在 YC 创始人中，就像每个人都在创业一样 everyone's like in the same boat we can all like support each other like it's 每个人都在同一条船上，我们都可以互相支持 just like in the water like it was my first time experiencing being in an 就像在水中一样，这是我第一次体验在水中 environment that felt like nourishing versus draining for starting companies 对于初创公司来说，这种环境感觉像是滋养而不是耗尽 and you could feel that really intensely like just being in San Francisco and 你会强烈地感受到就像在旧金山一样 then you found yourself in one of those legendary rooms very early on with your 然后你发现自己很早就和你的人一起进入了那些传奇的房间之一 first startup yeah it was again just like a total um Serendipity luck Factor 第一次创业是的，这又像是一次偶然的运气因素 Evan Williams the fan of Twitter had happened to be speaking at a conference Twitter 粉丝埃文·威廉姆斯 (Evan Williams) 碰巧在一次会议上发表讲话 at my college in like 2006 and he' we sort of my co-founder who's my cousin um 大约 2006 年在我的大学，他是我的联合创始人，他是我的表弟，嗯 cor we spoke to him and he is like hey like if you guys move out to San 因为我们和他谈过，他说嘿，如果你们搬到圣 Francisco like we have some free office space and you should just like we have 弗朗西斯科，我们有一些免费的办公空间，您应该像我们一样 some desks and you should just like come hang out there which is what we did and 一些桌子，你应该喜欢去那里闲逛，这就是我们所做的， that startup at the time was called audio um Odio which is a podcasting 当时的初创公司名为audio um Odio，是一家播客公司 00:08 00:08 company that was not actually doing very well and you you could actually feel it 这家公司实际上做得不太好，你可以切实感受到 in the office but I mean it's why they had space in free desks right like they 在办公室，但我的意思是，这就是为什么他们像他们一样在免费办公桌上有空间 had more space than they needed it was very much people were coming like 9 to 5 空间比他们需要的多，很多人都是朝九晚五的样子 and so it just wasn't like a a super Dynamic environment but within a month 所以这并不像一个超级动态的环境，但在一个月之内 of us moving in there they launched Twitter and and twizz just like took off 我们搬到那里后他们就推出了 Twitter 和 twizz and then suddenly like the whole energy in the place changed there were always 然后突然就像这个地方的整个能量都发生了变化 like interesting people coming in and out of the office and just like you got 喜欢进出办公室的有趣的人，就像你一样 really energized by being around something that was clearly working so 周围有明显有效的东西，所以真的充满活力 well and it made you want to like put in 好吧，这让你想要放进去 more effort and like feed off the energy and what's funny is har startup was in 更多的努力，就像汲取能量，有趣的是，哈尔初创公司当时处于 the same office as Twitter and it the same time I was running a different 和 Twitter 在同一个办公室，但同时我却在运行一个不同的办公室 startup and Twitter moved offices after they outgrew that space and they moved 初创公司和 Twitter 在办公室空间不够用后搬迁了 into my office building and so my startup was actually across the hall 进入我的办公楼，所以我的初创公司实际上就在大厅对面 from Twitter's second office and this kind of like this might seem like a 来自 Twitter 的第二个办公室，这样的事情看起来像是 bizarre coincidence it's actually like not that unusual because all of Tech was 奇怪的巧合实际上并没有那么不寻常，因为所有的科技都是 00:09 00:09 concentrated into this very small area in like downtown and Soma like people 集中在这个非常小的区域，像市中心和索马一样的人 who haven't been here don't don't realize just how dense it was where like 没有来过这里的人不会意识到这里有多密集 you could go from any startup to any startup in San Francisco in like 15 你可以在 15 年内从任何一家初创公司转到旧金山的任何一家初创公司 minutes yeah I mean I remember a very specific example of that like we we left 分钟 是的，我的意思是我记得一个非常具体的例子，就像我们离开一样 the office to get lunch and we step outside and we bump into Ron Conway like 去办公室吃午饭，我们走出去，撞见罗恩·康威，就像 the like legendary angel investor and he 传奇般的天使投资人和他 just starts asking us some questions and we start and we met him at a YC event 刚开始问我们一些问题，然后我们就开始在 YC 的一次活动中见到了他 um and we just told him like we've got like a bunch of problems we really want 嗯，我们只是告诉他我们有很多我们真正想要的问题 like to get blah blah blah as a customer and by the time we got back to our 喜欢成为顾客，当我们回到我们的网站时 office he'd like shot off these intros to all of the companies for us um to 他想在办公室为我们介绍所有公司 help us like with like making sales like 帮助我们进行销售 wow this place is like incredible I mean 哇这个地方真是难以置信我的意思是 the crazy thing I think San Francisco is the place in the world where you can 最疯狂的事情是我认为旧金山是世界上你可以 manufacture luck and startups for them to really get big lots of things need to 为他们创造运气和创业机会，让他们真正获得很多需要做的大事 00:10 00:10 happen to be right there's something special about being surrounded with all 碰巧被所有人包围有一些特别的地方 the people that kind of know how and they're all here and they're willing to 那些知道如何做的人都在这里并且他们愿意 help because starting companies is actually a very anomalous than in other 有帮助，因为创办公司实际上比其他公司非常反常 parts of the world it's a strange job and to your point harsh starting a 在世界的某些地方，这是一项奇怪的工作，对你来说，开始一个严酷的工作 company could be looked at oh you're just a bomb you're not really working at 可以看看公司哦，你只是一个炸弹，你并没有真正在工作 the beginning what is it going on but here people really celebrate it because 一开始发生了什么，但这里的人们真的很庆祝，因为 people understand how hard it is how is it for you D I'm C like because you grew D 我喜欢你 因为你成长了 up in Chile like how was the move to Silicon Valley and being around this so 在智利，就像搬到硅谷一样，周围的环境怎么样 it relate a lot to the story of being a misfit so in Chile when I grew up I was 这与不适应环境的故事有很大关系，所以当我在智利长大时，我 always a weird kid to stay indoors because also was very difficult being 总是一个奇怪的孩子呆在家里，因为也很难 the only Asian kid there were no other Asian kids around and I really loved 唯一的亚洲孩子，周围没有其他亚洲孩子，我真的很喜欢 reading books and when I got a computer I really like um also building a lot of 读书，当我拥有一台电脑时，我真的很喜欢嗯，也建造了很多 these RPG games back then emulators I got a lot into that and internet was 这些 RPG 游戏当时的模拟器我很喜欢，而且互联网也很发达 00:11 00:11 like my bubble but didn't know anyone like that and what was cool is I always 喜欢我的泡沫，但不认识这样的人，最酷的是我总是 admired all the builders and my dream was that at some point I would move to 钦佩所有的建设者，我的梦想是在某个时候我会搬到 be in Silicon Valley and be there and what was special that I didn't know and 在硅谷，在那里，有什么是我不知道的特别之处， there was this poll is that when I got and moved to with to Silicon Valley I 有一项民意调查是，当我搬到硅谷时，我 started working at intel was my first job it's the first time I felt at home 开始在英特尔工作是我的第一份工作，这是我第一次有宾至如归的感觉 there were a lot of people like like me who really like to nerd out and 有很多像我一样非常喜欢书呆子的人 really to go deep on subjects and building and it wasn't judged because I 真正深入研究主题和建筑，但没有被评判，因为我 was judged back then I had to sort of hide and not talk about my interest when 当时被评判时，我不得不隐藏起来，不谈论我的兴趣 I go in that super deep and that was special where it was celebrated and you 我深入其中，庆祝的地方很特别，而你 can build and there's also the experts in different areas and everyone is just 可以建造，还有不同领域的专家，每个人都只是 as deep as you with building and it's just as exciting and an optimist instead 与你一样深入建筑，它也同样令人兴奋和乐观 00:12 00:12 of being judged on why you like this weird 被评判为什么你喜欢这个奇怪的东西 thing uh one of the funniest things that I remember from Reading Paul Graham 呃，这是我在阅读保罗·格雷厄姆时记得的最有趣的事情之一 essays that I think was one of the reasons why a bunch of us found his 我认为这些文章是我们中的一些人找到他的原因之一 essays um was he would always describe what it was like in high school to be a 嗯，他总是会描述在高中时成为一名学生是什么感觉 nerd and then I I think that that might be a common experience for us where you 书呆子，然后我认为这可能是我们的共同经历，你 know you sort of grow up in the in default Society default Society you 知道你是在默认社会默认社会中长大的 realize is a little bit foreign it has different values than you it um you know 意识到有点陌生，它的价值观与你不同，嗯，你知道 sort of value appearance more than sort of the substance um's way to do it right 某种价值的外观比某种物质更重要，嗯，这是正确的做法 and that kind of keeps going even after college let's say you um for young 即使在大学毕业后，这种情况仍然持续存在，比如说你是年轻人 Founders their friend who may not be Founders end up getting whatever the 创始人的朋友（可能不是创始人）最终得到了一切 standard job being an investment banker or working for a 标准工作是投资银行家或为 consulting or whatever or the big Tech job and they end up having this Standard 咨询或其他任何大型技术工作，他们最终都有这个标准 Life where it's like okay they get the promotion they get the nice vacations 生活还不错，他们得到了晋升，他们得到了愉快的假期 they get the time off and a lot of their 他们有时间休息并且有很多时间 00:13 00:13 meaning is more outside of work and then when you're friends with uh nothing 意义更多的是在工作之外，然后当你成为朋友时，呃什么都没有 against that by the way with when your friends are like that and you're doing 顺便说一下，当你的朋友是这样的而你正在做的时候 your startup and you're working 247 and working very hard and not really having 第247章 你的创业，你工作得很努力，但并没有真正拥有 a lot of money to take the vacations the 有很多钱去度假 fancy vacations you kind of get a little bit judged implicitly not directly and 美好的假期你会受到一些含蓄而不是直接的评判， that can be a bit demotivating and I think what's special being here is you 这可能会让人有些沮丧，但我认为这里最特别的是你 surround yourself with people who are in that same mode in that same Vibe 周围的人都处于相同的模式、相同的氛围 we those who working hard and you're chasing your dreams to build something 我们是那些努力工作的人，而你们正在追逐自己的梦想来创造一些东西 and it's not look down that you're not taking a fancy vacation or going to the 这并不是因为你没有去享受美好的假期或去 fancy dinners is actually on the other hand celebrated that you're working hard 另一方面，丰盛的晚餐实际上是庆祝你努力工作 and really taking taking the lead got such a deep Point Di and I think that is 真正带头取得了如此深的点迪，我认为那就是 actually the true reason why startups and startup Founders conglomerate in 实际上，初创公司和初创公司创始人聚集在一起的真正原因 Silicon Valley like some people think it's transactional reasons like oh this 硅谷就像有些人认为这是交易原因，就像这样 00:14 00:14 is where the investors are so you have to be close to the investors or like 是投资者所在的地方，所以你必须靠近投资者或喜欢 this is where the like employees are so you have to be like the place where you 这是相似的员工所在的地方，所以你必须像你工作的地方一样 can hire employees and like those I actually think those are like factors 可以雇用员工，就像那些我实际上认为这些都是类似的因素 probably more minor factors I actually think the biggest factor is that it's 可能还有更多次要因素 我实际上认为最大的因素是 like people become the average of the people who they surround themselves with 就像人们成为周围人的平均水平一样 when you're in a city that doesn't value this kind of thing it's really hard to 当你身处一个不重视这种事情的城市时，真的很难 stay motivated it's really hard to be as ambitious when you move to Silicon 保持积极性，当你搬到硅谷时，真的很难再有雄心壮志了 Valley and you're surrounded by people like everywhere here are people starting 山谷，你被人们包围，就像这里到处都是人们开始 companies really ambitious companies people who are you know who are who are 公司是真正雄心勃勃的公司，你知道谁是谁 really trying to change the world in a very serious very dedicated way it just 真的想以一种非常认真、非常专注的方式改变世界 like wears off on you and it makes you motivated to want to do the same thing 喜欢在你身上逐渐消失，它会让你有动力想做同样的事情 it's also like um there's a particular sense of like long-term ambition here um 这也就像嗯，这里有一种特殊的感觉，比如长期的野心，嗯 where like startups just take so long to actually work out and make any 像初创公司一样需要很长时间才能真正解决并做出任何事情 difference that everyone who starts out here is on that journey and it's just 区别在于每个从这里开始的人都在这段旅程中，只是 you know I think out generally like alistic and wants to make a difference 你知道我的思维方式总体上是像alistic一样并且想要有所作为 00:15 00:15 but you're also just very incentivized to think long term and i'm not pay 但你也非常有动力去长远思考，而我却没有报酬 attention to like short-term stus games you care you kind of care about like 关注您关心的短期 Stus 游戏 您有点关心 your relationships over a long period of time and if you contrast that to say 你们在很长一段时间内的关系，如果你对比一下的话 like a finance Hub like New York there's a huge amount of ambition there but it 就像纽约这样的金融中心，那里有巨大的野心，但它 is tends to be more like how much money are you making right now and one thing 这往往更像是你现在赚多少钱以及一件事 we all see is people come to San Francisco or YC with maybe like they 我们都看到人们来到旧金山或 YC 可能会像他们一样 their ambition level like they think is at like you know like on two out of five 他们的野心水平就像他们认为的那样，就像你知道的那样，五分之二的人 scale but like they grow from all the other people and especially if the 规模，但就像他们从所有其他人中成长，特别是如果 company starts doing well like their ambition changes right and so like and I 公司开始表现良好，就像他们的野心改变一样，所以就像我一样 think that's a very unique thing here where if you're working on like 认为这是一件非常独特的事情，如果你正在做这样的事情 technology like there's almost no bound to like how far like your ideas can go 科技几乎没有限制地喜欢你的想法能走多远 it's just like how long do you want to keep pushing them and working on them 就像你想继续推动它们并为之努力多久 for and if you're around like other people who are also interested enough in 如果你像其他人一样对 what they're doing to keep doing it versus trying to hit some like end state 他们正在做什么来继续这样做，而不是试图达到最终状态 of success I think that's how you end up 我想这就是成功的结局 with these companies where you have Like 与您喜欢的这些公司合作 00:16 00:16 Larry Ellison working on Oracle for like decades like anything that happens 拉里·埃里森 (Larry Ellison) 在 Oracle 工作了几十年，就像发生的任何事情一样 anywhere else this is actually a place that generates social movement like we 在其他任何地方，这实际上都是像我们一样产生社会运动的地方 believe X like I believe that uh Ai and large language models might regen 相信 X 就像我相信呃人工智能和大型语言模型可能会再生一样 recreate uh every type of enterprise software and that's happening like right 重新创建呃每种类型的企业软件，这就像正确的那样发生 before our eyes right now or we believe that um you know El electrification and 现在就在我们眼前，或者我们相信嗯，你知道电气化和 you know decarbonization will remake how we use energy in the world like that's 你知道脱碳将重塑我们在世界上使用能源的方式 sort of happening before our eyes and then being around people who have those 有点发生在我们眼前，然后周围的人也有这些 ideas like not all of them are going to be right even having a culture where 即使有这样的文化，也不是所有的想法都是正确的 being wrong is okay uh that's very rare and I think that's like you know having 犯错是可以的，这种情况非常罕见，我想这就像你知道的那样 a truly inclusive place where it's uh basically what do you believe and what 一个真正包容的地方，基本上就是你相信什么以及什么 do you believe that nobody else believes yet that that's the very unique reason 你相信没有人相信这是非常独特的原因吗 why I think San Francisco is the most special place in the world like right up 为什么我认为旧金山是世界上最特别的地方 00:17 00:17 until Co it was clear that San Francisco was the 直到 Co 之前，很明显旧金山是 center of the startup and Technology world right like you completely right 创业和技术世界的中心就像你一样完全正确 like every neighborhood was becoming busier like rents and property prices 就像每个社区都变得更加繁忙，比如租金和房价 kept getting like more and more expensive like it was very clear the 变得越来越贵，很明显 center of everything and then takies more and more yeah yeah like I think 一切的中心，然后越来越像我想的那样 that was probably spin the backlash office vacancy was like 这可能是旋转强烈反对办公室空缺就像 0.5% yeah new apartment buildings especially in like the area where the 0.5% 是的，新公寓楼尤其是在像这样的地区 Salesforce Tower was built I I always felt that felt like another Turning Salesforce Tower 建成了 我总觉得那感觉像是另一个转折 Point like huge Tower like that whole are we had a um startup office was based 像那座巨大的塔一样，我们有一个初创办公室 right around the corner from there and just the new apartment buildings going 就在拐角处，新公寓楼正在建设中 up on every block like it really felt the center of everything I remember in 每一个街区都感觉它真的是我记忆中一切事物的中心 2019 it seemed like one of the biggest problems that weissy had was it there 2019 年，weissy 遇到的最大问题之一似乎就是它 was not enough place to put all the people who wanted to move to San 没有足够的地方容纳所有想搬到圣的人 Francisco like there was not enough housing there was not enough office 弗朗西斯科好像没有足够的住房，也没有足够的办公室 space we were just like bursting at the seams yep and then Co hit what happened 太空，我们就像在接缝处爆炸一样，是的，然后我们发生了什么事 00:18 00:18 in Co yeah how the things come kind of turn around so downturn in a matter of 在 Co 是的，事情是如何发生逆转的，所以经济低迷 few months yeah everything changed in a matter of a few months I think right up 几个月是的，几个月内一切都改变了，我想是的 until covid everything we said is very true like there it was clearly the 直到新冠病毒爆发之前，我们所说的一切都是真的，就像在那里一样，这显然是 center of the tech world like everything people were moving but there were 科技世界的中心，就像人们正在移动的一切一样，但有 clearly problems with the city like beneath the surface like homelessness 城市存在明显的问题，比如无家可归者等地下问题 was increasing like crime was increasing like there were all these like tensions 就像犯罪在增加一样，就像紧张局势一样 that people looked past because like you had to be here and I felt like Co hit 人们回头看过去，因为就像你必须在这里一样，我感觉就像一起击中 remote work became like necessary and it was a chance for a lot of people to 远程工作变得很有必要，这对很多人来说是一个机会 finally move out and experience living in another city where they didn't have 终于搬出去，体验在另一个他们没有的城市的生活 as many of these problems as San Francisco did it's like I would meet 就像旧金山那样，我会遇到很多这样的问题 people who would talk about San Francisco as though like Jared puts it 人们会像贾里德所说的那样谈论旧金山 this way like Gotham City right if you were on Twitter or if you were just 就像哥谭市一样，如果你在推特上或者你只是 bumping into casual people they're like oh like it was really like was just like 碰到随意的人，他们就像哦，就像真的就像就像一样 00:19 00:19 wow you're from San Francisco I'm sorry you go out at night yeah and it was and 哇，你来自旧金山，对不起，你晚上出去了，是的，而且 this was basically all of I think like 2021 and like most of 这基本上就是我对 2021 年的所有想法，就像大多数人一样 2022 and then in the last year some things have happened that have turned 2022 年以及去年发生的一些事情发生了转变 things around and are starting what Gary's calling this boom Loop like what 周围的事物正在开始加里所说的繁荣循环就像什么 what happened in the past year well the clear thing is AI right like the um chat 过去一年发生的事情很明显，人工智能就像嗯聊天一样 gbt launching um was like a complete like reset and brought everyone back and GBT 的推出就像一次完整的重置，让每个人都回来了 I think like to like the broader point in order to work on AI pre like CH the 我想喜欢更广泛的观点，以便像 CH 一样从事 AI 工作 chat gbt 3 launch you have to be sort of 聊天 GBT 3 发布，你必须是这样的 like counterculture Misfit it was not at all a mainstream thing to be working on 就像反主流文化 Misfit 一样，它根本不是主流的事情 it was kind it was not cool to work on AI if anything actually you know it was 如果你确实知道的话，从事人工智能工作并不酷，这真是太好了 a little bit of a dead end for some people at that point like it was a bit 那时对某些人来说有点死胡同，就像有点 of one of the AI Winters back then and people were keep going because they knew 当时人工智能的冬天之一，人们继续前进，因为他们知道 00:20 00:20 something that everyone it didn't this is that part of being counter I think 每个人都没有的东西，我认为这就是反击的一部分 it's a really important point because pre that like and during the covid 这是非常重要的一点，因为在疫情之前和期间 remote work period there were multiple hubs that had the claim to be like the 远程工作期间有多个中心声称类似于 next Silicon Valley and I don't think anyone was claiming that like any one of 下一个硅谷，我认为没有人像其中任何一个人那样声称 them would be as big as Silicon Valley but there was just like a a general view 他们会像硅谷一样大，但只是有一个普遍的看法 that hey like the future of innovation just going to be distributed and 嘿，就像创新的未来将是分布式的 dispersed in like some of it will be New 分散在其中，就像其中一些将是新的一样 York some of it will be in La some of it will be in London like all around the 约克，有些会在洛杉矶，有些会在伦敦，就像其他地方一样 world but the thing that actually drove the wave happened in San Francisco and 但真正推动这一浪潮的事情发生在旧金山 it doesn't seem coincidental like if anything you can argue the fact that the 这似乎不是巧合，如果有什么你可以争论的事实， city got so bad and it's still like it's come back and it's like now the center 城市变得如此糟糕，但它仍然像回来了，就像现在的中心 again is just evidence of how strong the like Network effects are here yeah and 再次证明网络效应有多强是的， it's not just open AI basically all the AI ended up in San Francisco open AI 不仅仅是开放人工智能，基本上所有人工智能最终都在旧金山开放人工智能 anthropic scale AI basically all the big AI companies all the big all the big 人类规模的人工智能基本上所有大型人工智能公司都大所有大 Tech AI research Labs it's all in the Bay Area and now we're saying like post 科技人工智能研究实验室都在湾区，现在我们说的是像帖子一样 00:21 00:21 chat gbt like we're seeing San Francisco really come back how is it different 聊天 GBT 就像我们看到旧金山真的回来了有什么不同 like what are we seeing that's like different in sort of this iteration of 就像我们所看到的，在这次迭代中有些不同 San Francisco versus like the peak preo well commercial real estate is 旧金山与像高峰普雷奥商业地产一样 down but um I guess the wild thing is like we still have some real big 下来，但嗯，我想疯狂的事情就像我们仍然有一些真正的大 problems downtown and uh in large parts of Soma and S was sort of where they 市中心和呃索马和南的大部分地区都存在问题 allowed to you they where they allowed developers to build housing and by 他们允许开发商建造住房，并通过 default I think a lot of people watching this who are not from San Francisco a 默认我认为很多观看此内容的人都不是来自旧金山 lot of them might end up in Soma and then realize oh this isn't a place where 他们中的很多人最终可能会来到索马，然后意识到哦，这不是一个可以 I want to live and then they'd leave but 我想活下去，然后他们就会离开，但是 you know I think the thing I want people to sort of understand is like cerebral 你知道，我认为我希望人们理解的事情就像大脑一样 Valley is not Soma cerebral Valley is actually a play on Hayes Valley which is Valley 不是 Soma Brain Valley，实际上是 Hayes Valley 的一个版本，它是 in the center of the city there's lots of incredible food and you know shops 在市中心有很多令人难以置信的食物和商店 and like that's where a lot of uh the best AI companies are choosing to be uh 就像这就是很多呃最好的人工智能公司选择的地方呃 right now we're sitting in the Y combinator offices we signed more than a 现在我们坐在 Y 组合办公室里，我们签署了多个 00:22 00:22 100,000 Square feet here so you know the amazing thing now is we can have you 这里有 100,000 平方英尺，所以你知道现在令人惊奇的是我们可以拥有你 know three different events going all at the same time over here like this is a 知道三个不同的事件在这里同时发生，就像这是一个 very different part of town that uh has a neighborhood Vibe that's very safe and 镇上非常不同的地方，呃，有一个社区氛围，非常安全， so you know explore the neighborhoods figure out don't just do the default 所以你知道探索社区找出不只是做默认的 thing which is live in fidai or Soma like there are so many neighborhoods 住在 fidai 或 Soma 的东西就像有很多社区 that are incredible and they might cost a little bit more but you will get the 这是令人难以置信的，它们可能会花费更多一点，但你会得到 real San Francisco experience if you as someone that moved back I think the 真正的旧金山经历如果你作为一个搬回来的人我认为 single thing that struck me most that's different is how much the neighborhoods 最让我印象深刻的是，社区有多少不同 have changed like it really matters which neighborhood you're in now I feel 我觉得已经发生了变化，你现在在哪个社区真的很重要 like preco you sort of you knew like the tenlo in the Civic Center were like the 就像 preco 一样，你知道市政中心的 tenlo 就像 bad areas of San Francisco and outside of that every neighborhood maybe had a 旧金山的贫困地区以及除此之外的每个社区可能都有一个 slightly different flavor but it didn't actually matter too much if you were 味道略有不同，但如果你是的话，这实际上并不重要 based in like s versus fi or all the even the mission but like now it's like 基于像 s 与 fi 或所有甚至任务，但就像现在一样 it's very important that you pick the right neighborhood right um like and I 选择正确的社区非常重要，就像我一样 00:23 00:23 feel like YC like now we're in like the Dog Patch which we sort of locked into I 感觉就像 YC 现在我们就像狗补丁一样，我们有点锁定在 I would say like what is probably the best neighborhood in San Francisco yeah how 会说什么可能是旧金山最好的社区 是的，怎么样 we talk about moving YC to San Francisco which is something we talked about for 我们谈论将 YC 搬到旧金山，这是我们谈论的事情 years but Co happened and other things happened and like now we were finally in 几年了，但是 Co 发生了，其他事情也发生了，就像现在我们终于进入了 a position to do that and you two actually led the search for YC's new 有一个职位可以做到这一点，你们两个实际上领导了 YC 新产品的搜索 headquarters do you want to talk about like the places that you looked at and 总部你想谈谈你看过的地方吗？ how we ended up here I mean there were lots of neighborhoods lots of different 我们是如何来到这里的 我的意思是这里有很多不同的社区 other places but uh if anything we did at startup style which is uh Dog Patch 其他地方，但是如果我们在启动时做了什么，那就是 Dog Patch is really safe um it's being redeveloped 真的很安全，它正在重新开发 um and this was actually before openingi moved in over here and then there was a 嗯，这实际上是在开业之前我搬到这里然后有一个 space uh right next to where we are right now that was the PowerHouse for 呃，就在我们现在所在位置的旁边，那是发电站 pier 70 so it literally housed the uh the engines that generated the power for 70 号码头，所以它确实容纳了为 uh where we are which is the shipyards that built a third of the uh US Navy 呃我们在哪里，这是建造呃美国海军三分之一的造船厂 00:24 00:24 during World War I and two so it's sort of like this incredible uh symbolic 在第一次世界大战和两次世界大战期间，所以这有点像这个令人难以置信的象征性的 significance of um so much power being generated in that that house so that's 那所房子里产生的这么多电力的重要性，所以那就是 actually our main event area and then we just took over the uh the office next 实际上是我们的主要活动区域，然后我们刚刚接管了接下来的办公室 door and so you now we have a really sweet YouTube studio right here and 门，所以现在我们有一个非常可爱的 YouTube 工作室就在这里， across the street there's also two other YC companies astranis and also Gusto 街对面还有另外两家 YC 公司 astranis 和 Gusto right the Dog Patch is great that's where our center of gravity is but 对了，狗补丁很棒，那是我们的重心所在，但是 what's some of the push back you all get from Founders about moving to San 创始人对于搬到旧金山有什么反对意见 Francisco and things they worried about and what's the advice you give them 弗朗西斯科和他们担心的事情以及你给他们的建议是什么 especially uh International Founders there's a lot of uh the consumption of 尤其是呃国际创始人有很多呃消费 news is from Twitter and there's a lot of things about being not safe and being 新闻来自推特，有很多关于不安全和不安全的事情 scared of coming here but when they actually move to the right neighborhood 害怕来这里，但当他们真正搬到正确的社区时 they're pleasantly surprised which is which is nice but this is not to say 他们很惊喜，这很好，但这并不是说 that the city doesn't have problems there's definitely neighborhoods that 这座城市没有问题 肯定有一些社区 00:25 00:25 still should avoid which we actively advise them where to be 仍然应该避免我们积极建议他们去哪里 actually which which are the neighborhoods where should people be 实际上人们应该在哪些街区 based I mean personally I love you know Mission Dolores noi Valley these are 基于我个人的意思是我爱你知道 Mission Dolores noi Valley 这些是 great areas they're a little bit more expensive I think you know Glenn Park is 伟大的地区，他们有点贵我想你知道格伦公园是 actually an incredible neighborhood that's sort of you know hidden Burnal 实际上是一个令人难以置信的社区，就像你知道的隐藏的伯纳尔 Heights is right over the hill from uh you know where we're at in the dog patch 高地就在山的对面，呃，你知道我们在狗场的什么地方 in petero Hill uh Mission Bay is brand new so and it's very close to YC so 在 petero Hill 呃 Mission Bay 是全新的所以而且离 YC 很近所以 that's and open AI so you know I actually think that you know during the 这就是开放人工智能，所以你知道我实际上认为你知道 batch we actually tell people can you be 我们实际上告诉人们你可以吗？ within a mile of Y combinator in the Dog Patch and the reason why is you know 距 Dog Patch 中的 Y 组合器不到一英里，原因你知道 you're going to be working 80 90 hours a week like writing code or talking to 你每周要工作 80 到 90 小时，比如写代码或与人交谈 users but you know on those Friday nights you're going to come out to uh 用户，但你知道在那些周五晚上你会出来呃 actually this office and we have you know uh a launch event where people demo 实际上，在这个办公室，我们有一个发布会，人们可以在那里进行演示 00:26 00:26 their software and grab a beer and then afterwards they go out to the bar or 他们使用他们的软件并喝杯啤酒，然后他们去酒吧或 grab grab pizza and then you know Friday and Saturday nights that's when you can 抓起披萨，然后你就知道周五和周六晚上就可以了 let your hair down a little bit and actually you know see the other people 把你的头发放下一点，实际上你知道看到其他人 in your batch and then those are the relationships that um you sort of take 在你的批次中，然后这些就是你所采取的关系 with you for frankly the rest of your life I mean one of the more surprising 坦白地说，与你共度余生，我的意思是更令人惊讶的事情之一 things that uh I'm still surprised by is you know when I got married after doing 呃，我仍然感到惊讶的事情是，你知道当我结婚后 YC two whole tables were my Stanford friends but two whole tables uh were YC 整张桌子都是我斯坦福大学的朋友，但是整张桌子都是 actually my y combinator friends and uh Paul Graham even came and he even wore 实际上我的 y 组合朋友和呃 Paul Graham 甚至来了，他甚至穿着 pants there's a there's actually a Founder map that lays out where all the 裤子上实际上有一张创始人地图，上面列出了所有 founders of the current batch are staying and the center of gravity is 本期创始人留任，重心在 around our office here in Doc patch and that's not random reason that's by 在我们办公室周围的文档补丁中，这不是随机的原因 Design and maybe we can talk about why is that I mean I remember in my uh YC 设计也许我们可以谈谈为什么我的意思是我记得在我的呃YC batch we actually did the manual version of this making a collaborative Google 我们实际上做了手动版本的批处理，制作了一个协作谷歌 map in summer of 2008 and this was while it was was still in Boston and the 2008 年夏天的地图，当时它还在波士顿， 00:27 00:27 funniest thing was uh that's how I got to know my co-founder Brett Gibson uh 最有趣的事情是呃，这就是我认识我的联合创始人布雷特·吉布森的方式呃 him and his co-founder were working on a different startup called slink set um 他和他的联合创始人正在致力于一家名为 slink set um 的不同初创公司 and we actually would just grab beer pizza and beers every weekend and when 实际上我们每个周末都会买啤酒披萨和啤酒 they couldn't raise money we ended up uh sort of merging our companies and then 他们无法筹集资金，我们最终呃合并了我们的公司，然后 so Brett Gibson who ended up being my co-founder for posterus uh ended up 所以 Brett Gibson 最终成为了我的海报联合创始人呃最终 being my co-founder for post Haven and then also worked with us at YC the 作为我的 Post Haven 联合创始人，然后也在 YC 与我们一起工作 software team and now he runs uh initialized and it all started by just 软件团队，现在他运行呃初始化，这一切都是从 him happening to live next to you in Boston when you were going through YC 当你在 YC 读书时，他恰好住在波士顿的你隔壁 and so where you live who you hang out with I mean it's pretty wild that these 所以无论你住在哪里，和你一起出去玩，我的意思是，这些都是非常疯狂的 things end up mattering and you know San 事情最终变得很重要，你知道桑 Francisco is the best place in the world to sort of build that Network that Fe I 弗朗西斯科是世界上建立 Fe I 网络的最佳地点 mean you're not building a network you're actually just making friends for 意味着你并不是在建立一个网络，你实际上只是在交朋友 life and that's like the real version of it and then you mentioned cerebral 生活就像它的真实版本然后你提到了大脑 Valley it did actually start as Hayes Valley you could play on that but I Valley 实际上是从 Hayes Valley 开始的，你可以在上面玩，但我 00:28 00:28 actually think like cerebral Valley is this neighborhood it actually is this 实际上认为大脑谷是这个社区它实际上是这个 it's kind of weird that cerebral Valley became known as hay Valley I think the 大脑谷被称为干草谷，这有点奇怪，我认为 real Argent for that is just that there is this one Hacker House in Hayes 真正的银子是海斯有一个黑客之家 Valley but it was literally just a house but again what we talking about during 山谷，但它实际上只是一座房子，但我们再次谈论的是 the period that that Hacker House started San Francisco was pretty dead 黑客之家创办旧金山的那段时期已经死了 yeah it was it was so dead that like the hacker house is probably like the most 是的，它已经死了，就像黑客之家可能是最像的 happening place you can become the center of San Francisco by literally 发生的地方，你可以通过字面意思成为旧金山的中心 having the one house like 10 hackers in it working on like AI stuff right but 有一所房子里有 10 名黑客，他们在研究人工智能之类的东西，但是 like it's not true today like open AI has this huge lease right around the 就像今天这不是真的，就像开放人工智能在周围拥有巨大的租约一样 corner from here in like Mission Bay which is next to the Dog Patch we're 从这里的拐角处，比如 Mission Bay，就在我们所在的 Dog Patch 旁边 here like the startups are going to start being based here like this seems 初创公司将开始在这里立足，就像这样 like it's the real real cerebral Valley right here this is the real cerebral 就像这是真正的大脑谷就在这里，这就是真正的大脑 Valley and I think a lot of the companies that we're working with right Valley 和我认为我们合作的很多公司都是对的 now uh they're going to find product Market fit they're going to get their 现在呃他们会找到适合市场的产品他们会得到他们的 first million then 10 million then 100 million then billion dollar a year in 每年先是一百万，然后是一千万，然后是一亿，然后是十亿美元 00:29 00:29 net revenue they're going to fill the office Towers in fidai and Soma they're 他们的净收入将填满 fidai 和 Soma 的办公大楼 going to build these businesses that create thousands of jobs and there's not 要建立这些创造数千个就业机会的企业，但没有 going to be you know one Salesforce Tower there might be dozens if not 您知道只有一个 Salesforce Tower，否则可能有几十个 hundreds in the next 10 years and so we're really talking about a real boom 未来 10 年将有数百个，所以我们真正谈论的是真正的繁荣 Loop here this already happening I was talking to companies from the last couple 循环到这里，这已经发生了，我正在与最后几家公司交谈 batches and there's this um office Bas in s where there are a bunch of YC 批次，还有这个嗯办公室 Bas in s 那里有一堆 YC companies that just got that just raised 刚刚筹集资金的公司 their seat around and they're surrounded around each other and they feel the 他们的座位周围，他们互相包围，他们感觉到 energy there's this thing about being in the right Vibe they need a cool name 能量 处于正确的氛围中是这样的，他们需要一个很酷的名字 like wi scraper then I think we're also seeing like another just a fact of being 就像 wi scraper 那么我想我们也看到了另一个事实 here is like the AI specifically like if you're working on developer tools like 这就像人工智能，特别是如果你正在开发像这样的开发工具 in a big area right now like you want to be here they all of the best Engineers 现在在一个很大的区域，就像你想在这里一样，他们都是最好的工程师 who are going to be using your like Cutting Edge developer tool or 谁将使用您的尖端开发工具或 00:30 00:30 infrastructure all based out here if you're building AI software you need 如果您正在构建所需的人工智能软件，基础设施都位于这里 someone especially enterprise software you need someone who's going to be your 某个人，尤其是企业软件，您需要一个可以成为您的人 champion and Advocate and is going to take a bit of a bet on like a startup 冠军和倡导者，并将像初创公司一样进行一些赌注 that's using some you know like Cutting Edge AI model that's not fully proven 这是使用一些你知道的，比如尚未完全验证的尖端人工智能模型 yet and they're all like those people tend to be here it's always clear that 然而，他们都像那些倾向于在这里的人一样，总是很清楚 you can build companies outside of San Francisco and Silicon Valley like 你可以在旧金山和硅谷之外建立公司，比如 there's always going to be exceptions and maybe there'll actually be more of 总会有例外，也许实际上会有更多 them over time but I just think all else being equal if you're starting out like 随着时间的推移，但我认为如果你一开始就像 you andone Play Just maximize the odds to be in your favor like you should you 你和一个人玩 只是最大化对你有利的几率，就像你应该的那样 should be here despite the the fact that it will always be exceptions why don't 应该在这里，尽管事实总是有例外，为什么不呢 you want to get more lucky here in San Francisco yeah maximize your luck so the 你想在旧金山获得更多的运气 是的，最大化你的运气，所以 great thing is I mean we want San Francisco to be hyper inclusive and what 伟大的是我的意思是我们希望旧金山具有高度包容性，什么 that means is uh you don't have to pay that much for rent uh you can feel safe 这意味着呃你不必支付那么多租金呃你可以感到安全 walking down the street there's great small businesses that are uh you know 沿着街道走，有很多很棒的小企业，呃，你知道 00:31 00:31 thriving and then frankly this is the place where you should start your 蓬勃发展，然后坦率地说，这是你应该开始你的地方 startup and Thrive here as well 100 years from now what does San Francisco 100 年后，旧金山也将在这里创业并蓬勃发展 look like in Tech I mean I'm a big fan of uh Gan roddenberry's ideal for 看起来像科技，我的意思是我是呃 Gan roddenberry 理想的忠实粉丝 Starfleet command I mean this is the ultimate techno Optimus dream which is 星际舰队指挥部我的意思是这是终极科技擎天柱的梦想 we unlock so much abundance in the world that money doesn't exist anymore and 我们释放了世界上如此多的财富，以至于金钱不再存在 people can search the Stars to try to find and create their own meaning um and 人们可以搜索星星来尝试寻找并创造自己的意义嗯 I I think that there's no mistake like Starfleet command from Star Trek the 我认为没有像《星际迷航》中的星际舰队指挥那样的错误 Next Generation and Star Trek you know the universe broadly it's like right 下一代和星际迷航你对宇宙的了解很广泛，就像对的 there in the presidio in San Francisco I think that im if you take the 在旧金山的要塞 我想如果你采取 agglomeration effects of the smartest people in the world the best builders in 世界上最聪明的人、最优秀的建设者的集聚效应 the world and you put them in one place and they create this scene like this um 世界，你把它们放在一个地方，它们创造了这样的场景，嗯 00:32 00:32 you know set of people who all run in the same direction create these 你知道一群人都朝着同一个方向奔跑创造了这些 companies that matter and then people stay here and you know they make the 重要的公司，然后人们留在这里，你知道他们创造了 schools awesome they build housing they actually you know invest into Arts we 学校很棒，他们建造住房，实际上你知道，我们投资于艺术 actually make the city the kind of the best city in the world like we have all 实际上使这座城市成为世界上最好的城市，就像我们所有的城市一样 the building blocks to make San Francisco into the best city in the 使旧金山成为世界上最好的城市的基石 world where you know give us your Misfits give us your nerds give us your 你所知道的世界 给我们你的不合群者 给我们你的书呆子 给我们你的 autists give us the people who you know just wouldn't fit anywhere else like 自闭症患者为我们提供了一些你知道在其他地方不适合的人 they have this capability with their hands and with their brain to create 他们有能力用双手和大脑来创造 something that has never existed before and we put them all in one city and they 以前从未存在过的东西，我们把它们都放在一个城市里，它们 go and create software and hardware and technology and biotech and climate tech 去创造软件、硬件、技术、生物技术和气候技术 for that will touch billions of people and all of that wealth comes back into 因为这将影响数十亿人，所有这些财富都会回归到 this one city and we make the city more and more awesome that's what San frano 这一座城市，我们让这座城市变得越来越棒，这就是旧金山 00:33 00:33 is that is what San Francisco could be and we will Manifest this the boom Loop 这就是旧金山可能成为的样子，我们将体现这一繁荣 Loop is happening guys so maybe that's a great place to 正在发生，伙计们，所以也许这是一个好地方 end that's it for this week of the light cone we'll 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